FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

What does "Natural Order" mean?

In his long tenure as a trader Stephen experimented with and discarded many indicators and theories.  Through it all he held firm to his belief that markets wanted to be orderly and communicative.  There are many approaches in the public domain that use "natural" elements.  These include, but are not limited to:  Gann theory, Fibonacci, chaos, cycle trading and Elliott Wave.  There is evidence that these "natural" theories have some credence, but they generally lack the consistency essential for profitable trading.

What he discovered is that markets are not always affected by outside influences like astrophysics or lunar cycles, but they are always influenced by each other.  His use of natural profiles, inter-market divergences and other sophisticated timing models make this obvious. 

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How is this approach different from conventional systems?

It adapts to changing market conditions.    Conventional systems are based on presumably non-random events that the designer hopes will continue in the future.  Markets, on the other hand, are like living entities that are always changing.  See the problem?  A system,  by nature, is based on information from the past, and cannot change with the market in the future.  Natural Order enables a trader to recognize market shifts and changes and tells him how to profit from that information.  While systems are headed for draw downs or outright failure, Natural Order traders are understanding and capitalizing immediately from these new market events.  We like change.

It is not curve fitted or optimized. 

It is not mass distributed.  We strictly limit client enrollment to no more than 60 traders each year, that is only an average of 5 students per month. Mass marketed systems may distribute 60 or more software orders in a month and putting 60+ traders into a seminar room is common practice.  For mass marketers, "more" is better. . . but better for whom?

Our strict limit on distribution is better for us and our clients.  It ensures the integrity of the method, which is important to us since we trade the method ourselves.  Also, working with only a few traders at a time allows us to give individual attention and empower our clients to reach their personal targets.

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How long have you been working individually with traders?

We accepted our first student in February of 1989, over 15 years ago, and have continued to maintain the highest standard in trading education and development.

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How long does it take to complete the program?

The training is 60 days in length.  When, within this 60 day period, an individual chooses to start trading depends on the his experience level and personal pace of learning.   

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Will I have to travel?

No. To participate in our 60 day home study program with personalized instruction by telephone, no travel is required. However, if you choose to do immersion training, travel to Naples, FL is required.


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Can the Natural Order Method be used to time my stock portfolio?

Yes. Elements of the method can be applied directly to individual stock charts.

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 Can I day trade using this method?

Although the Natural Order Method trades in multiple time frames, we do not recommend day trading.

Click here to see what Stephen has to say about day trading in the Traders World interview.

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What markets do the Natural Order Method trade?

We get excellent signals in widely followed major markets such as NASDAQ 100, S&P 500, Russell 2000, QQQ, Swiss Franc, Euro Currency, Silver, Gold, Crude Oil, etc. This course teaches you to identify which markets you should be following and specifically when to enter and exit them for the maximum return.


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What happens if a market becomes choppy?
Unlike most "conventional systems", The Natural Order Method is not dependent on a trending market to be profitable. Our signals combine to catch moves within choppy markets.


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How much homework is involved?
During the training process, we recommend you set aside at least one hour a day.  Afterwards, it will depend on how many markets you choose to follow.

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Do I have to watch the market all day?

Absolutely not. Entering and managing short term position trades will require no more than a few quotes. This method is less time consuming and it is much less stressful to trade.

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Do you have written course materials?

Yes, of course.  We provide a manual with charts and other pertinent information to aid in your training.

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What size account is recommended? 

We never like to see a trader risk over 4% - 5% of equity on any trade. We feel it is best to trade 2 or more contracts for flexibility in your profit taking. You will learn the concept of "Fast Exits" and "Final Exits". For that reason we recommend a minimum account size of $15,000. Proper capitalization keeps trading losses and wins in perspective.

See the Futures Trading page for examples of entries and exits.

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What kind of data do I need?
End of day data and the ability to update daily charts is required.  See our resource section for more details and vendor information.

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Is the method available on software?

No, and it never will be.  Our methods are the result of 27 years of trading experience.  We share this powerful trading approach with no more than 60 traders a year.  The signals we teach are non-subjective and precise and this course offers very powerful and specific ways to read a market better than a conventional system ever could.

Software can be copied and distributed without the knowledge of the developer.  Stephen trades only his own methods and considers the idea of putting them on software repugnant and quite insane.  If you had developed something of lasting value in a zero sum game like futures, wouldn't you feel the same way?  No wonder factors such as changing market conditions and mass distribution render software systems worthless.  If you want to be a member of the 1% club, you have to be doing something totally different than the other 99%.  Don't even think about software short cuts promising "wealth without work"!

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